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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Honduras?

WTF Mel Zelaya So like forty-eight hours after this Historic Deal was struck, nobody agrees on what it says, not even a little bit. There are loopholes, there are congressional votes, there are supreme court decisions, this shit will never end, blah. Anyway for your reading "pleasure," we submit:


  • Greg Grandin on why this deal is so screwy, from a lefty perspective.

  • This Wall Street Journal editorial, which pretty much comes to the same conclusion from a not-lefty perspective.
  • The Moderate Voice, on how douchey the Washington Post has been on all this.
  • Some unsourced rumors, in Spanish, about how the Honduran congress made a deal with Clinton to vote Zelaya back in.
  • Some sourced rumors, in English, that lefty US Labor Secretary Hilda Solis will be on the "verification commission" to make sure that this screwy, loophole-ridden deal is enforced.

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Bosque Author Profile Page:

Oh fuck Florida and all its worthless wastes of air.

El Cid Author Profile Page:

Once again proving one of the few in the Honduran crisis who actually gives a damn about Honduran democracy, law, Constitution, and the judicial system, Edmundo Orellana points out that it's improper for the Honduran Congress to solicit the Supreme Court's opinion on the proposed accords (in which the Congress would reverse its un-Constitutional June 28th decree).

This is a matter which could potentially come before the Supreme Court to rule upon, via the Constitutional Court, therefore as in any court system it would not be proper for a court to render an 'opinion' on a matter which may be heard before it.

I'm sure, though, that Jim de Mint, Fred Hiatt, and Lanny Davis could tell us how awesome it is when friendly courts give their opinions on matters they may later rule on.

@Utpal: Actually, "The Moderate Voice" is where the DINOs and RINOs hang out. But they're all raving US-centric wingnuts when it comes to LatAm, or at least Venezuela. In other words, "moderate" in the US is short for "fascists minus all the pesky, unpopular-making swastikas". It does not mean what reasonable people think it means, anymore.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot = WTF = What The Fuck?

Utpal Author Profile Page:

So the Venezuelan "nalgas blancas" were in D.C. recently. Did anyone (boorevv or revolter) see them around?

Canada, no surprise, is ready to jump up and down for this agreement and send the bucket (or automaton foreign affairs 'officers' which ever gives least resistance to the party, I mean official, line) to give the Canadian seal of approval to the upcoming elections. Don't worry, Honduras - our bucket will be ready to go toute de suite (that's French for super fast) so you can have your elections whenever you want. Those Europeans may be concerned about being able to put together competent observer teams, but Canada knows now that Zelaya and his supporters are no longer creating disruptive for the coup government endangering negotiations or something so democracy can once again flourish for Gold Corp and Aura Minerals, and the Hondurans I think.

http://www.international.gc.ca/media/state-etat/news-communiques/2009/326.aspx

I'd like to know what Canadian mining companies achieved under the coup government - I'm with Grandin on that front. However, I'm generally going to take my internal cues from the Frente Nacional Contra el Golpe de Estado for internal Honduran stances. They have not given up the fight nor lost anything new through this agreement. They have gained something: the coup government has much less legitimacy in claiming some sort of political crisis for their repression, and if they are able to keep the momentum the resistencia should be able to accomplish so much more in terms of organizing.

My personal opinion is that external supporters of the resistencia should follow their lead, and help them by exposing the coup-allies in our own countries. Canada and the US have long and dirty lists.

El Cid Author Profile Page:

Oh no! The Honduran general Romeo Vasquez Velasquez who launched this coup, has fear, and feels bad since the coup hasn't been working out quite as easily as he probably assumed!

...el jefe del Ejército hondureño, el general Romeo Vásquez, tiene otras preocupaciones. Según oficiales a sus órdenes, Vásquez está muy preocupado por no terminar en chirona.

Romeo Vásquez, de natural dicharachero, se ha encerrado en el silencio. Ya sólo habla con quien le inspira confianza... La confianza de que no le va a preguntar a bocajarro: "¿Quién le dio la orden de sacar al presidente Manuel Zelaya de su casa y expulsarlo, en pijama, del país?". Al principio, el general salía del apuro contestando: "Vayan a preguntar a los juzgados". Pero ya esa respuesta no sirve. Sobre todo después de dos circunstancias. La primera, la promesa -aunque poco fiable- del presidente golpista, Roberto Micheletti, de que los responsables de aquella acción serán castigados. La segunda, la doble decisión tomada por los negociadores de Zelaya y Micheletti: no a la amnistía, y sí a la creación de una comisión de la verdad que investigue lo sucedido en Honduras desde aquel 28 de junio, cuando un comando militar sacó a Zelaya de su cama y lo abandonó en Costa Rica...

...Oficiales cercanos al general comentan que también ellos están preocupados. "Si algo ha quedado claro", sostiene un militar de alto rango, "es que aquí el Ejército cumplió una misión el día 28 de junio. Alguien nos dio una orden y nosotros la cumplimos. Ahí terminó nuestra intervención. Ni el general ni ninguno de nosotros hemos participado después en el nuevo Gobierno o de cualquier otra prebenda. Sería injusto que los políticos se pusieran ahora de acuerdo y que el chivo expiatorio lo pusiéramos nosotros".

Fuck 'em. Assholes. I can't wait until countries like Honduras and Guatemala can finally get rid of these death squad asses always hanging around every corner to intimidate civilian governments.

I hope this opens up a deep and resentful chasm between the military leaders and the other political-economic elites and oligarchs, since the military was likely assured of how smoothly everything would go and they end up revealing that Hondurans will stand right up in front of them and fight back, which takes a hell of a lot of repressive intimidation away from a military which spent generations building up their death squad pride image.

I think the general, for his part, ought to be looking over his shoulder at each moment for one of his military rivals to do him in -- the reversal of the coup, even if it hasn't happened yet and only has been formally announced, has proven him weak and vulnerable.

When fascists and militarists suffer defeats, they tend to become vulnerable and fall. And good riddance.

Big Al Author Profile Page:

"Whiskey Tango Foxtrot"? Is this a Wilco reference?

Utpal Author Profile Page:

Isn't the "moderate voice" like a mouthpiece of the wackier segment of the US democratic party?

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